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. and former health insurance executive wendell potter on what obama's proposed $340 billion in medicare cuts will mean for seniors. >>> vice president joe biden stumps for the middle class at a retail store that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real s
there and they have passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants. it would essentially lay the groundwork for a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell saying raising limits. we're talking about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. >>> senate republicans have used a record number of filibusters. >>> senate republicans have used a record number of filibusters. john boehner is fighting to keep it that way. we'll tell you what that's about. >>> fast food workers stage the largest strike in their history. we'll show you what they hope to accomplish here in the big apple. >>> and later the white house releases the first beau obama christmas video. it's much better than the old barney camp videos and we have the tape to prove us. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome ba
spending cuts. republicans realize -- >> they offer, i think obama is offering $500 million -- [ overtalk ] >> dana: critical count -- >> eric: the democrats realize that they have to touch spending if they want the 2%. >> brian: i want the power to raise the debt ceiling without asking you. >> dana: triple count cuts that were made. to get credit. wants to get credit for cutting things that were already cut in the past. his budget could not get a single vote in the senate. maybe they should bring the president's budget up again to see if it has more support. >> andrea: i want to ask about the tax rates. we learn the top 1% averaged 23% tax rate, while filers in the bottom 50% average a tax rate of 2%. a lot of people don't like to get george bush credit. he took poor people off the roles. >> bob: first, myself, i have given bush credit for doing that. in every tax bill we have. the wealthiest people in america continue to get cuts, cut, cuts. why do we have income disparity in country? rich getting richer. >> andrea: how are they getting cuts? >> eric: because -- >> bob: i told you. reag
sandy politicians making big promises, president obama promising to cut the red tape. now have they all forgotten about the victims? we're back with our political panel. john, you can see the frustration, you know. the man blasting president obama about his vacation to hawaii, just said he doesn't have electricity. you know, what about it? >> it's perfectly understandable and justified. i mean, you have the entire national media swoop in for a story where president obama and chris christie shook hands and that was supposed to be his great heartwarming moment where they were going to come together to fix things. now a month later there are real problems here and government just simply hasn't been working for a lot of these people. you have stories where there are perfectlily got fema trailers sitting in pennsylvania when they could be put to use in new york or new jersey. >> greta: why aren't they there? >> no one knows. i don't know. you hear people telling stories about filling out forms, people who are approved to use the money to stay at a marriott but not a comfort inn. there are so
is threatening a power play move to force a vote on extending middle class tax cuts. this morning, president obama also pushed away republican senator orrin hatch called his proposal, radical. >> it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the we weltmist americans. >> what he proposed this week is a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase doubled the size of what he campaigned on. >> joining me now nbc news white house correspondent mike viqueira. mike, let's talk about this thing. this is the time the lawmakers are breaking out the rule book to find some tricks. how does pelosi think she can force a vote on middle class tax cuts? >> it's funny, craig, the president visited the tinker toy factory yesterday but he's not playing around, that is for certain. his opening bid delivered by tim geithner the treasury secretary on thursday up on the hill was such a one-way document as far as republicans were concerned that the republican leader of the senate broke out in a burst o
to get worse under obama. republicans are totally over the barrel because all tax cuts, bush tax cuts expire unless they agree to what is being portrayed as tax cuts for the rich. >> sean: boom. >> of course, let me finish the three points. it's not the rich. it's people who are currently engaged in making money or tax breaks as they say. for the rich i'd be more in favor of tax hikes on the rich. that's warren buffett and john kerry and diane feinstein. this is a tax on people desperately trying to become rich but the truly wish don't want them to. finally, the most important point is in two years we've got to take back the senate. >> sean: i don't want to talk about the election. >> the republicans need to concentrate on making sure this economy gets blamed on obama. there are things they can do like propose tax cuts or rather tax hikes for the truly rich, ie, warren buffett. no more state and low tax deductions. cut out that hollywood foin accounting. let's go after the 1% of the 1%. forget the 1% of income earners. >> sean: there's a lot of good ideas there. >> thank you. >> sean:
. and they are waiting for fema to help for more than a month. >> i told president obama you told us you would cut the red tape. the middle class gets the royal finger. he said fema worked for me. fema ain't doing anything. >> steve: it a town hall that turned into a town brawl. ready to almost go over the edge? looks like you have a friend as well rick. >> as promised brian cashman and bobby valentine. bobby's first time and he wants to go face first. we'll see if that can happen. right now we'll go to break. "fox and friends" is back in two minutes. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. a hybrid? most
obama knows he has a deal. >> dana: i don't think -- well, one, the present doesn't have a spending cut plan. why is everyone looking at us. where is your plan, sir? now the democrats are starting to realize wait, i think they are on to us. president obama sacrificed going to hawaii with his family. going to stay behind. they will fawn over him for not going to hawaii. >> bob: that happened last year. if you accept the bush tax cut last time. family went off and obama stayed behind. it's time so just accept it. >> brian: it is the same game. the house republican and the senate democrat and president is democrat. >> eric: i can't tell you how many shows i stayed until 11:59, live show for the debt creeling to hit or the government to shut down. government would shut down, 19:55 they fixed it. obama is say nothing, i need more. boehner is saying we are further than we have ever been. >> they know where they will meet in the middle. >> dana: i think they are farther apart than ever, actually. >> eric: you do? >> dana: i do. does it show you wouldn't -- >> kimberly: absolutely not. >> kimbe
obama. the different in dollars. the president wants $800 billion more in tax increases. the republicans want approximately more a trillion dollars more spending cuts. that's the difference between the two sides just in dollar terms. there is a difference between the two sides in terms of principle. the principle centers on higher tax rates, yes or no. speaker boehner many latest offer is raise $800 billion mostly from the wealthy by limiting deductions. the president says, no, don't want that. we want to tax the rich with higher tax rates on the rich. we have a dollar difference, a difference in principle. martha: we are hung up on ideology here. if you can get the money one way and it produces a long lasting change to the tax code which both sides say they want, what seems to be the problem? >> reporter: it's ideology. the president one the elect, he says he won it on taxing the rich. he want to win the debate. whether it's the best solutioner to the economy is an entirely different story. this is a political and ideological argument and we'll see who wins. martha: there is a couple wa
the game with the tax hike and spending cuts. we have the same thing? $20 trillion in the hole in four years, 25 trillion in nine years. nothing will change. this place is bankrupt. >> greg: president obama is obsessed with the 2%. like the crazy stalker breaking in david letterman's help. he hates the rich. it is not going to end. in two years we come back and deal with this. >> eric: why don't you want to go off the fiscal cliff? >> bob: a lot of people will get hurt. i don't care if the 2% will get hurt. >> greg: you hate rich people. >> bob: i don't hate them. they're all right. they give money to philharmonic. >> greg: without rich peopl people, there would be no government. >> bob: a deal is worked out as we speak. there will be a deal and include some increase. maybe not the entire for the upper income people. there will be adjustment to social security. >> eric: we'll continue to rack up $1 trillion. guess what our kids will be stuck with? trillions and trillions of debt. additional debt. >> dana: i am worried about the future when it comes to that. let me tell you. i don't thi
. the $16 trillion debt. so far there are no serious proposals whatsoever coming from the obama administration with regard to cutting this level of debt that the united states knows. america is heading for an economic catastrophe. it is a slow-moving sort of trained crash. gerri: i think that train is being of every single day. to you. imperial presidency. not only imperial. it's on hiatus. the talks have been outsourced. the very man who negotiated the biggest bailout of banks in u.s. history. i think his choice of a negotiator is even problematic at this point. >> i completely agree. if you think back to the start of the first administration, he had his problems getting confirmed because of that the year to pay taxes. he's not well loved. he is an intro figure in the bailout of the banks and their supervision money was at the new york fed. this is not an ideal person to carry the message to the help. the message itself as dangerous. i agree 100 percent. this is not a message for the american people, international markets. and that you think it is an example of the administrati
't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm assuming they'd want to have a big tax cut, right? >> no. >> they would sit on their hands post-january 1st and say nothing? >> do you think republicans are so stupid in the house they don't see that move coming and say, you know what? you go ahead and you try to pass your tax cut through harry reid's senate, and we'll pass our tax cut through the house. and good luck. >> so they would just rather have everyone's tax -- i'm shock that that would be the end result. >> harry reid would rather have it his way or nobody's way? >> no, i'm saying you can negotiate in these flex three weeks about this package of tax cuts. >> i don't mean this to be directed towards you -- >> but here it comes. >> -- no, i'm just saying generally, there is such an arrogance in the media since the president won. they think that these house republicans are -- >> have nothing to say. >> -- have absolutely nothing to say. >> i do agree with that. or nothing of value. >> they act
? they attack him. for the entire campaign all we heard about was how obama wanted to cut medicare. so which is it? i it he cut too much or he doesn't cut anything? and where is there offer? if they say they are the party of cutting spending stop talking about the democrats, make an offer. >> mitch mcconnell is out there every single day saying these are the entitlement changes that i think make sense and would get us to a deal. raising the retirement age, dealing with change the inflation formula so the programs aren't spending so much out over time. if president obama is interested in reforming entitlements which he says he is but he never specifies what it would be. all he has to do is call up mitch mcconnell and say i think these are good ideas, let's sit down and they would happen. republicans would take those immediately. >> that's how you think republicans should lead, they should wait for a call from the president? not go on tv but make an actual offer? >> specific changes on entitlements. if the president is in favor of changing entitlements, all he has to do is say i agree these ar
obama has proposed $4 billion in spending cuts. possibly medicare savings at some point. that was in his budget he proposed but didn't get any support from even some democrats in the senate. but i don't know where the extra money comes from. what are your thoughts about the 400 billion that the president proposed? >> the 400 billion is a constant moving target. the president hasn't nailed down where this money is going to come from for sure. but remember what he told republicans last week? you make the decision on taxes for us and then we will talk about spending in january. it's his way or the highway. the president has done more negotiating a bookstore here in washington, and bite enact hostility virginia, that he is done up done up on the hill. he really wants to make a bargain for the american people, don't look for bargains for yourself. get up to the hill, cobble leaders to the white house. the president had one meeting and promised a meeting that never occurred. if the president was serious about this crisis, which everyone believes it is a crisis, then why isn't he leading? white
and congressional democrats. president obama proposed $4 trillion in deficit reduction, he has a balanced approach to take care of the middle class and that they have the certainty that they need that we make spending cuts that are significant, that make sense, and that we maintain the things that are going to keep us competitive globally like the central funding for education and innovation, and at the same time we also make sure we ask wealthiest americans to pay a little bit more and when it comes to our tax policy that if you work hard and play by the rules in america that everybody has a chance to succeed and that's why you've seen ceos from across the country sign on to that notion, with president obama, saying it's okay if we raise rates a little bit for folks who make more than $250,000 a year. the world is not going to come to an end. there are republican and conservative analysts and thought leaders like bill kristol who have said that. why the republicans in the house who really are still very entrenched with their tea party mentality have not yet understood that, and are still dug in,
movement on the cutting of spending either. peter: president obama and john boehner in front of cameras to make their cases in the battle over the fiscal cliff. the speaker said he is willing to move forward with negotiations in good faith after republicans rejected the president's first formal offer yesterday as being short on spending cuts, but it doesn't sound like anyone has put the brakes on the road to the coin. >> let's not kid ourselves. i am not trying to make this more difficult. i have been very guarded. i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to find common ground. >> this is not some run-of-the-mill debate, not about which political party can come out on top in negotiations and all of us get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. i am willing to do at and i am hopeful enough members of congress in both parties are willing to do that as well. >> the president's plan repeat his demand for $1.6 trillion over ten years on families making $250,000 a year and includes $400 billion in cuts, savings in medicare and medicaid and other
or the righteous thrill of cutting medicaid assistance from those obama-loving takers. for nearly 100 years now you were just this boring, nondescript wallflower, never drawing attention to yourself. when congress through spending and tax cuts came up against your limits, you were wordlessly elevated. they barely gave you a second glance. it was a waste of time to deal with you, but waste of time is what congress does. 74 times you have been raised since the '60s. you saw wars, peace, a man on the moon, and no matter how you batted your fiscal eyelashes, nobody cared. invisible. now, all of a sud be the tea parties can't keep their hands off you. like a case of fiscal syphilis you put the entire body in peril, and i know this disease is no fault of your own. congressional republicans have decided that consequences be damned, threatening the country with national default by refusing to lift you after having already voted to cut taxes and spend until you absolutely must be raised is somehow a useful tool for getting their way. i know you love all the attention, but seriously, debt ceiling, this isn't
take president obama's view, extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris kearns goodwin joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how he did it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today. [ grunting ] >>> how's this for irony? mitt romney has finally captured 47% of america. remember this video that sunk the romney campaign? >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> well, the cook report points out ro
, they are living up to their moniker. and here is the thing. i love hearing martin frost and president obama going out will an defending the bush tax cut. they criticize president bush on one side. but then they are out there saying that the tax cut by an large are needed to get the economy to grow. for martin frost -- >> i isn't say that. matt, i did not say that. i said -- >> well, hold on for you to say that president obama won the election. remember you sat in the house of representatives for many years and republicans controlled that house. when democrats controlled that house, they flex their muscles. the republicans in the house have a constitutional obligation to make sure we get a fair compromise. speaker boehner wants that. that is what he is fighting for. >> i think the president does, too. and the republicans can't expect that after he was re-elected on the basis that the rich get to pay a little bit more that the president -- >> i didn't mean that. i didn't mean that. >> eric: okay. prediction, end it there. prediction we won't be going over the fiscal cliff. >> i think we will not go
of president obama's plan to cut fiscal spending, invite someone for lunch and have us pick up the tab. >> we're all picking up the tab for that lunch. >> that's right. >>> "early start" continues right now. >> suddenly rich. so far we know of two winning tickets for the record-breaking powerball jackpot. >> lunch date, mitt romney meeting with president obama. >> and only in new york. a zebra hot on the heels of a pony in new york city. >> never thought about hot on the heels of a pony. okay. >> i'm christine romans. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. >> in egypt the u.s. embassy in cairo is closed. no one is being allowed in or out of the embassy now. embassy officials say the entrance is blocked by protesters as clashes erupt nearby. massive demonstrations against president morsy threatened the new young government after a degree last week extending his powers to an e uneasy level for some egyptians. americans in cairo going to the embassy for business, please don't. no one is going in or out of the embassy in cairo. >> and finding a way to steer clear of the fiscal cliff. the chief fiscal cliff neg
of my2k origins. a few samples. obama irony, same people who claimed bush tax cuts are only for the rich now argue to keep them because they help the poor. and there is this one. my2k should really be somebody else's two k. they can government not to take their money and say take it from someone else. and then there is this one, y2k was caught by programmers failing to limit code 24 places. speed was caused by americans failing to limit obama to four years. back to you. melissa: thank you so much, thanks they want to tweet hash tag bad ideas. thank you, dennis. lori: what is going on? melissa: you haven't been shopping. lori: luxury jeweler not looking very pretty today. the trade at the nyse coming ahead. melissa: is andrew mason the right person to run it groupon? meeting on the troubled company's future. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. now is a good time to think abo
: president barack obama has made his plan to avert the fiscal cliff very clear. he wants to raise taxes now. and, by the way, he'll get back to us with how exactly he intends to cut spending later. that's why speaker of the house john boehner told reporters no substantive progress has been made. president obama has no interest in reducing the size of the federal government. now democrats before him he's dangling the prospect of future budget cuts in the hopes republicans will take the bait. with that in mind, it's important to remember the words of president ronald reagan, he wrote them in his own autobiography, and described in great deal a deal he struck with the democrats in 1980s, promising $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in a tax increase. reagan wrote, the democrats reneged on their pledge and we never got those cuts. perhaps that's why some on the right are calling foul on these negotiations. >> the only secret talks have revealed, a government that skips from one crisis to the next. all of this secrecy allows the president to petition himself frankly and being in favor of a bal
cuts and tax increases, if negotiations break down. here is what president obama had to say in his weekly radio address. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from beginning up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans onboard, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it may way. but it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> in the republican response, senator orrin hatch takes that hostage met foaphor one step further. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are proposing a disastrous thelma and louise strategy, putting our already weak economy in further jeopardy. >> president obama says he wants to get a deal done by christmas, but both republicans and democrats will have to come together to make that happen. jessica yellen has more on where each side stands. >> reporter: jus
million in so many things. if we got the fiscal cliff. gerri: withhe dense cuts come if we do over the cliff, it will cost $100 million or over that? >> 137 million. gerri: would this put you into the red? >> it certainly could. we are still looking at obama's health care plan and what it will do to the sta budget. the federal strings are tied. i asked the president about this. the federal funds that come down to the state as you may cuts -- we can still have the strength attached to it. it doesn't give leeway to meet your unique circumstances in our state. we are all different. different budgets,ifferent employment rates, different constitutions, different laws. different styles of living and means within our budget. give us some flexibility. gerri: i expect you to be a little bit more upbeat about the fiscal cliff, but i have to tell you, you sound like a lot of people in washington today. concerns over whether these leaders can get together and find common ground and resolve this issue. it would be meaningful to stay like yours. governor, thank you so much for coming on. >> tha
obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to be balanced with talks that i heard about. >> brian: absolutely not. >> the only pending cuts is for war spending and stan tan and iraq. >> that is six billion in health care. >> we need more to save our generation and we shouldn't tax people give our generation jobs. can i please talk about how our gen
cliff on new year's day. that would mean automatic spending cuts and the expiration of tax cuts for most americans. president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it, we have said it, we have said it so many times the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks since we met at the white house and are still waiting for a serious offer from the republics. >> shepard: after his meeting with secretary geithner the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said of administration officials quote today they took a step backward moving away from consensus and closer to that cliff. ed henry is live at the white house for us tonight. ed we are getting new informatio
of the deal we do what obama ran on on the tax cuts, on the tax increases and we're going to study the future spending cuts? isn't that the face-saving way out? >> it's tax reform, part of that conversation in the background. but i think simpson-bowles is more of a way out for the gop than some folks may think. i think generally the public, conservatives included, like the ideas that are enunciated in the plan. i think certainly more conservative members in the house and the senate have spoken favorably of it. it gives you a framework to begin the conversation and i was surprised that neither the president nor mitt romney actually took that as sort of a bull whip to kind of shape the argument. >> talking like that, that's why you referred to as former republican connection. >> there's a funny kind of -- there's an interesting, you know, i don't know, third option. i don't think it will come to this but there's sort of, you know, let's say we go over the cliff. the republicans do not -- they hold firm. we go over the cliff, then we'll no doubt reinstate the tack cuts of the middle class so the
earners and spending cuts. we've had a trillion in spending cuts already, $800 billion additional in the drawdown from the war efforts in afghanistan and iraq, and then a number of spending proposals that obama put on the table in august of '11. consider that against what republicans are doing, and this shows that republicans are really chicken hawks when it comes to reducing the debt. they have a plan on tax reduction which most economists think would do far more harm than the obama plan would. secondly, they fail to specify what kind of cuts they want. remember, this is the party that's campaigned for two election cycles now on cutting government spinding, but when you ask them to identify exactly what you want to cut, you get mishmash from them. you get $100 billion in medicare savings by increasing the retirement age from 65 to 67. you get some unspecified savings from reducing social security. the only specifics if you add them up are about $300 billion or $400 billion in specific cuts, the rest are inspecific. this is the party whose fundamental premise is to cut government
taxes on the 2%. seems like the movement is all in one direction. nobody is saying cut the size and scope of the government. >> that's right. president obama for at least two years now, maybe longer, has always been talking about a balanced approach to t deficit. when he talks about balanced approach, he means tax revenue and cutting spending, however the only part of the conversation we're having is about tax revenue. no conversation whatsoever about the spending part of this equation. that's because he has no intention of cutting spending. >> sean: senator chambliss is clear, it's increasing revenue, getting more money from the american taxpayer. isn't that a tax? >> yes. what they fail to see or don't want to see or acknowledge this country doesn't have a revenue problem. there's plenty of revenue coming into the treasury. remember the "t" in tea party stands for tax enough already. we have a severe spending problem. before barack obama became president, sean, federal government spending was about 18%, 19% of gdp. barack obama and the democrats have pushed it up to 24% to 25%
president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the tax side, but they're trying to figure out how to get from here to there. >> and let's just stop there, because let's say the white hous
try this over the cliff. barack obama, as originally the grand bargain one and 0 billion in tax cuts. then he won the election. now he wants to increase it to over one half trillion. he has double down on all of these things. if you go back historically in this whole program, you might remember roy reagan, $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. we get the taxes but ronald reagan never get the spending cuts. orge bush lost an ection in '92. he raised taxes on the democrats promised him $2 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. george bush is still waitin for those $2 in spending cuts. now the present is saying to live in give you two and a half to one. it's time the democrats and the president stepped up and cut spding. gerri: to that point. want you to respond to what the white house had to say in response to the republicans offer and then go to michael's point about what you will actually get latr. here is what dan pfeiffer said. it promises to lower rates for the wealthy and stickhe middle-claas with the bill. we could do it pinocchio test. is that true or fals
extending middle-class tax cuts and it probably didn't hurt that the co-founder of costco is a big obama contributor. before he left, the vp used the phone of his cart driver, ivy stewart. to call her grandmother and leave a message. ivy was so moved by the whole experience, she wiped away tears. >> thanks for shopping with me. and i know you won't tell anybody what i bought for christmas yet. >> reporter: here's a hint from nat "king" cole's classic -- ♪ chestnut roasting >> reporter: the huffington held a caption contest for joe biden's checkout photo. our favorite, stopped by for some fire logs, went home with a flat screen tv. 32 inches. jeanne moos cnn -- ♪ -- new york. >>> well, that just ruins the christmas surprise about that television, but looking for love? when the politics are against you. we're going past the party lines. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. do y
middle income tax cut to the floor. >> reporter: later on today president obama will say that any deal reached in congress must include increased tax rates on the wealthiest americans. he will say that at a factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, where the company connects, makes tinker toys. that is company the white house picked for today's event because they rely on the middle class consumers who would be affected if we go off the fiscal cliff. martha. martha: that will be a major sticking point it sounds like. peter, thank you very much. bill: so what happens if your taxes or to your taxes if lawmakers don't strike a deal? the tax policy center says that 90% of the americans would see a tax hike next year in 2013. it says 121 million americans will be paying more in payroll taxes, and families making between 40 and $65,000 a year, will pay an extra $2,000 to the government. that starts in 2013. martha: some say that they're concerned that what happens in europe could also happen here down the road. look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high i
negotiations and the president iic mum on spending cuts, how should republicans respond? and ahead of january's big tax hikes, companies and investors are cashing out. including one of president obama's biggest supporters. plus, as susan rice makes the rounds on capitol hill, we'll look at who could make up the national security team in president obama's second term. ♪ >> i am ready and able and willing and excited to go ahead and get this issue resolved in a bipartisan fashion so that american families, american businesses, have some certainty going into next year. >> i'm disappointed in where we are and i'm disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. the fiscal cliff is a serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> welcome tt colonel, editorial report, i'm paul gigot, not a meeting of the minds between president obama and house speaker john boehner where talks to end the fiscal showdown ends. the president for his park took his place for the public and called for america and little cuts to
for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, mostly through spending cuts. and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backward, saying if republicans do not agree to some higher rates for wealthier taxpayer, the nation will go over the cliff, and the american people will hold the republicans responsible. wall street remains optimistic a deal will be struck. so the lack of progress is not yet resulted in a market plunge. but some economists estimate that because of the uncertainty posed by the fiscal cliff, at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year. the official deadline is december 31st at midnight when the ball drops in times square. the deadline is before that, a week from friday when the house of representatives is scheduled to go on vacation. in actuality there are fewer than 11 days before they need to work out a deal. jake tapper, abc new, the white house. >> that's scary, 11 days. fellows you sit up there until it gets wrapp
class tax cuts. probably didn't hurt that the cofounder of costco was a big obama contributor. before he left, he used the phone of his cart driver, ivy student, to call her grandmother and leave a message. ivy was so moved but the whole experience, she wiped away tears. >> thanks for shopping with me and i know you won't tell anybody what i bought for christmas. >> here's a hint from nat king cole's classic. the "huffington post" held a caption contest for joe biden's checkout photo. our favorite, stopped by for some fire logs. went home with a flag screen tv. 32 inches. jeanne moos, cnn. ♪ new york. >> we should take cameras around when you do your holiday shopping. you do like costco. way too many products for me. i can't do it. that's right. big news for you. this just in. the missouri lottery will announce the winners of last night's record $578.5 million jackpot tomorrow. those winners will be splitting the jackpot with a ticketholder in arizona. that person has not yet come forward. last night's prize is a largest in power ball history and yes, wolf blitzer flew to missouri over
it in the fact that president obama's out there campaigning instead of sitting down with john boehner, running around pushing for a bill to increase -- extend just the middle class tax cuts which he knows republicans will never do. you can see it in the fact that 33 senate democrats signed this letter which says, quote, we will oppose including social security cuts for current or future pen fisheries in any -- beneficiaries at any time. that's signed by harry reid. senator durbin giving a speech saying no touching medicare or medicaid in any year end package. so, basically, the democratic position is no changes to social security, no changes to medicare, no changes to medicaid, yet the mainstream media all you hear is three words: grover, grover, grover. all you hear is about republican intransigence on taxes. where are the stories about democratic intransigence on entitlements? it seems to me that what they want to do is go off the fiscal cliff, pocket the increase on the wealthy, the tax increase on the wealthy, and blame republicans for the middle class tax increases. and if that's what the
revenue? the president responded, high-end tax cuts do the least for economic growth and cost almost $ 1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. the white house released a video today showing how president obama has been consistent on his message throughout the last couple of years. it was central to his campaign. >> we need to give tax relief to working families trying to raise their kids to keep them healthy, send them to college, keep a roof over their heads. that's the choice in this election. that's one of the reasons i'm running for a second term as president. >> how quickly we forget. in the words of secretary timothy geithner, this is why republicans have no choice but accepting the tax increases on the wealthiest americans. >> why does it make sense for the country to force tax increases on all americans because a small group of republicans want to extend for 2% of americans? why does that make any sense. there's no reason why that should happen. we can't afford those tax rates. we can't afford them. so we're not going to get to the end now witho
, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what republicans want to do to entitlements. house democratic leader nancy pelosi is not talking about more spe
stands at $16 trillion. it was $10.6 trillion when president obama first took office and it has increased roughly 50% over the course of his first term. now president obama is insisting that any deal on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joinin
somewhere north of $1 trillion which is basically the difference between boehner's position and obama's position. it includes medicare cuts, entitlement cuts that are at least $400 billion. remember dick durbin on your show earlier in the week put that $400 billion marker down. democrats privately tell us they'll go higher, perhaps much higher if republicans get serious on raising taxes. they'll cut spending by about $1.2 trillion, which is the total of sequestration. and they'll probably have to throw in a debt limit increase to avoid hitting that in february. people involved in the talks feel like they can get there. there's no doubt it's going to take some time, boehner has to get republicans more comfortable with raising taxes including raising rates. i don't think there's a scenario where the rates don't go up on people making over $250,000. and democrats have to get more comfortable with entitlement changes. but at the end of the day, obama can deliver democrats. and i think boehner's stronger today than he was three months ago, and he could deliver more republicans than he coul
is the way to go, the problem is in most of europe it means higher taxes, obama wants to give us the bad part of europe, without the good part. >>neil: thank you very much. they are not cutting anything. just slowing the growth. rebound and former president bill clinton hitting the links. this is a photo from last year. what we don't know what was said teen them this year my guest homes the former president was critiquing more than just his successor's swing. art laffer was the top reagan economic adviser and you voted twice for bill clinton because his prosecutor mix of taxes. explain that? >>guest: yes i sure did. but for the raise hikes at top end, he cut taxes on the working people between ages of 65 and 72. he cut taxes on trade and products. he cut government spending as a share g.d.p. dramatically and he cut the capital gains tax rate and butt in welfare reform. what do you want from a president that bill clinton did not deliver? he was a great president. >>neil: the investment taxes was that concurrent with what was going on in the income tax hike front? >>guest: no. it was not. the c
. obama, as you know, is standing very firm on the $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he is offering $400 billion in cuts from the so-called entitlements but also wants to spend $50 billion on infrastructure. mr. boehner, on the other hand, is offering half -- half of what the president's number is on those taxes and not in what you'd say increases. more like closing of loopholes. he also wants much deeper cuts in entitlements and beyond. so we're watching both ends of pennsylvania avenue this hour. we've got dan lothian who is standing pat at the white house to figure out just exactly what the movements are every day. dana bash is on capitol hill. dan, let me start with you. we were just hearing from the president and we were cut off by a nasty satellite. let me talk about these business people and what exactly they can bring to the table because it seems as though he's soliciting them for advice. >> reporter: he is. but at the same time, you brought up a good point, that the president really has been doing a lot of the pressure as opposed to sitting down with lawmakers face-to-face. he's using
from a position that is closer to obama's than they were at this time last year. they are now backing away from the entitlement cuts they were talking about. they haven't given any specifics on what kind of deductions and loopholes they want to get rid of, but they're leaving that for the committees on capitol hill if they can get away with it. but we see president obama getting tougher right now on what he's calling for while the republicans, if you look at the numbers, they're really not asking for as much. i think we're seeing speaker boehner getting his ducks in a row to cut a deal that is going to try to get settled before the fiscal cliff goes over. >> bill, "the washington post" today has a poll which says 53% of americans are likely to blame republicans and just 27% the president if they don't agree on a fiscal cliff. we know that after the election, 60% of people said let's raise taxes on the wealthiest. what more does john boehner need? >> i don't understand the republicans' thinking on this. i really don't. this is power politics. they don't have the leverage in this situat
earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> president obama stayed out of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down for lunch with former rival mitt romney. >> i am sure they will or have already compared experiences on the campaign trail. >> today president obama hits the road to push for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republicans have slammed him for campaign-style politics that they say just won't get the job done. rob and sunny, back to you. >> can you really imagine that they're not going to reach some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? i mean that would be so unpopular across the nation. >> you would -- if you can take an action that would solve the problem for 98% of the country and then come back to the debate about the wealthiest 2%, let's get that first chunk done. republicans fear they could lose leverage if they cave in on the middle-class issue. apparently the president, his team has made increased demand here including, a provision now, part of the negotiations where, the congressional control over the debt limit would go away
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